ya that's very annoying.. it gives the video the illusion that it's
SMALLER!! One video I watched it just stretched it way out so it's
like letterbox all the way across.. the top had black bars not the
side but it was already wide so it really stretched it out bad..
> The idea is good, but there is a significant problem I've found.
> When I'm making a video for youtube, rather than stupidly stretching
> my 16:9 videos to fill a 4:3 space, I rendered them out as 4:3
> letterboxed, with black bars at the top and bottom. Worked fine.
> Now that this is widescreen by default, it means that these videos are
> letterboxed on the sides as well as the top/bottom one I put there
> before. So there is a tiny video in the middle of a sea of black
> space. I'm sure I'm not the only one to have this problem.
> Having an option would be the best idea for sure. I would rather have
> these videos displayed at 4:3 (with my own letterboxing still there),
> and then have an option to choose "display as widescreen" or
> something. If this widescreen thing hangs around then I wont bother
> letterboxing my new widescreen videos and let them fill the whole
> space, but as it is it looks a little ridiculous. Especially as most
> videos aren't widescreen.
> My screen is widescreen so the page layout looks great, its just not
> as functional as it could be.
> Hopefully this post stands out in amongst the retarded "LOLLL OMGG!!!
> DIs 1zzz SHee33it~!!!111"posts. :)
Great work guys but if the video is not in 16:9 format i think the
player should stay in its old "box" shape. However this is still
awesome. I'm sure theres some way to program the player to detect this.
I really welcome this idea
Videos are now much bigger and has better resolution. It really makes
youtubing becoming an even better experience for everyone.
I do hope however, that this improvement isn't the last of it, because
i believe if youtube is able to render a 80% quality of the original
video to be shown, then that will be even better.
But nonetheless, keep up the good work!!
Would you just shut up? Honestly. All you've done is spout capsed
words.
16:9 is a great idea, but they need to have a ratio changer either on
the video player itself (like there is for annotations and full
screen) or under your account settings (under playback options).
I love the fact that we can view videos in 16:9 now, the video player
way way too small for this day and age. Go around and look at all the
other popular flash video players. They are much bigger in size
compared to Youtube's 4:3 player.
> ya that's very annoying.. it gives the video the illusion that it's
> SMALLER!! One video I watched it just stretched it way out so it's
> like letterbox all the way across.. the top had black bars not the
> side but it was already wide so it really stretched it out bad..
> On Nov 25, 12:17 am, Robomansk8 wrote:
> > The idea is good, but there is a significant problem I've found.
> > When I'm making a video for youtube, rather than stupidly stretching
> > my 16:9 videos to fill a 4:3 space, I rendered them out as 4:3
> > letterboxed, with black bars at the top and bottom. Worked fine.
> > Now that this is widescreen by default, it means that these videos are
> > letterboxed on the sides as well as the top/bottom one I put there
> > before. So there is a tiny video in the middle of a sea of black
> > space. I'm sure I'm not the only one to have this problem.
> > Having an option would be the best idea for sure. I would rather have
> > these videos displayed at 4:3 (with my own letterboxing still there),
> > and then have an option to choose "display as widescreen" or
> > something. If this widescreen thing hangs around then I wont bother
> > letterboxing my new widescreen videos and let them fill the whole
> > space, but as it is it looks a little ridiculous. Especially as most
> > videos aren't widescreen.
> > My screen is widescreen so the page layout looks great, its just not
> > as functional as it could be.
> > Hopefully this post stands out in amongst the retarded "LOLLL OMGG!!!
> > DIs 1zzz SHee33it~!!!111"posts. :)
Two things:
1) Give users the choice between 4:3 and 16:9
2) Tell user what qualifies as HQ video in the new aspect ratio format
(so we don't need to upload several test videos to find out)
This really looks terrible for 4:3 videos and especially the older
widescreen videos that now have black bars on the left and right sides
as well as the top and bottom sides.
What you need to do is this: Make a video tool where people can auto
zoom there videos to fit the new size, also, maybe not have the
widescreen video player box for normal 4:3 videos.
> I love the fact that we can view videos in 16:9 now, the video player
> way way too small for this day and age. Go around and look at all the
> other popular flash video players. They are much bigger in size
> compared to Youtube's 4:3 player.
What if I were to tell you the resolution of the new widescreen videos
were less than the non widescreen? Would you feel cheated then?
4:3 resolutions standard 320x240, HQ = 480x360
16:9 resolutions standard 320x180, HQ = 480x270
The 'upgrade' has actually resulted in lower quality, lower resolution
videos. This is especially obvious at standard resolution. There has
been no increase in bitrate.
Ermmm, ive just found out something thats not good...
The new widescreen "New Bigger, Better Video Player", why is it that
when we upload a widescreen video, its actually a smaller size than
the original 4:3 ratio videos we are used to uploading?
Example(talking about HQ here, not LQ although LQ its the same): I
upload a 640x480 video(size of the actual video players screen, 16:9
ratio) and it gets converted to a 480x270 video by youtube on HQ on LQ
is a measly 320x180.... now... when I upload a 480x360 video(not
widescreen), I get a 480x360 video in HQ and LQ is 320x240... so why
is widescreen smaller than the standard video size we usual upload?
I guess youtubes idea of widescreen is for you to simply cut of part
of the videos height to make its ratio 16:9 so you end up with a
smaller video than what you started with, YAY!!! ¬¬
So much for the "New Bigger, Better Video Player", it sure is big! but
the widescreen videos that go in it are smaller and of a lower quality
than ever!
So, upload your usual size videos for the best size and quality!
All you have to do is cope with the black bars at the sides.
Awsome job youtube!
Youve made life ever worse for us youtubers!
Please at least make widescreen videos BIGGER than than the standard
size videos, dont make them smaller like you have!!! (is that not why
you made the video player BIGGER, to make the videos BIGGER?!).
What are you thinking youtube?!!
I really hope you do read this because I want to know why youve
decided to make videos smaller and of a lower quality while at the
same time trying to introduce something that looks bigger, better and
more shiny.
Trojan Horse anyone?
I too would very much like to have the option to choose between 16:9
and 4:3, as the most videos I watch are in 4:3. I really hope that you
will make a function to let people choose as the viewing experience on
4:3 videos with the new format is decreased significantly. The black
bars are distracting and annoying and more annoying than the black
bars when you use "letterbox" to view 16:9 on a 4:3 television. You
could also let people choose in which aspect ratio their videos should
be uploaded in.
I like that you are offering higher quality, better quality as an
option is always a good thing
Problems:
Older videos look smaller even though they actually arent
I have videos with millions of views in the 16:9 aspect ratio and
would like to reupload them without losing stats
solution:
keep the old 4:3 player for older videos
allow me you upload a 2nd version of the same video and give people a
link to 'view in widescreen' the same way they can view in high
quality
> > I've got a question for ya. what the heck were you thinking making it
> > wider? that was really stupid. I agree with Shane1163 when he says
> > it's "GET RID OF THAT SH**!!!!!" How am I supose to enjoy the vid's if
> > they are too wide like they are now. All I'm gonna say is quoting what
> > Shane1163
> > EITHER GET RID OF THAT SH** OR MAKE IT OPTIONAL I HATE WATCHING VID'S
> > LIKE THAT I CAN'T EVEN ENJOY THEM LIKE THAT. SO I HOPE THAT FOR THE
> > SAKE OF EVERYONE THAT LIKES IT THE OLD WAY THAT YOU CHANGE IT BACK AS
> > FAST AS POSIBLE.
> > On Nov 24, 7:55 pm, YouTube Timmy wrote:
> > > Over the years we've heard a lot of feedback from you about what you'd
> > > like to change about YouTube, and the size of our video player is
> > > always top of mind. That's why today we're excited to announce a
> > > bigger YouTube player.
> > > We're expanding the width of the page to 960 pixels to better reflect
> > > the quality of the videos you create and the screens that you use to
> > > watch them. This new, wider player is in a widescreen aspect ratio
> > > which we hope will provide you with a cleaner, more powerful viewing
> > > experience. And don't worry, your 4:3 aspect ratio videos will play
> > > just fine in this new player.
> > > As always, we welcome your feedback and encourage you to share your
> > > thoughts with us on this exciting, new change happening for all videos
> > > on YouTube.
YouTube Timmy wrote:
> Over the years we've heard a lot of feedback from you about what you'd
> like to change about YouTube, and the size of our video player is
> always top of mind. That's why today we're excited to announce a
> bigger YouTube player.
> We're expanding the width of the page to 960 pixels to better reflect
> the quality of the videos you create and the screens that you use to
> watch them. This new, wider player is in a widescreen aspect ratio
> which we hope will provide you with a cleaner, more powerful viewing
> experience. And don't worry, your 4:3 aspect ratio videos will play
> just fine in this new player.
> As always, we welcome your feedback and encourage you to share your
> thoughts with us on this exciting, new change happening for all videos
> on YouTube.
16:9 is great and all, but when 80% of the videos are made with
Windows Movie Maker which has no widescreen option, then in 5 years
time we'll still have new videos with huge black margins.
Surely there's a way to auto-detect what size a file is before it
plays it, and switch accordingly.
The sad thing is that you should've thought of this in the first
place, and your staff seem to lack the ability to think before they do
things, so they get giddy and release things months before they should.
its a very good idea !! I hope it wont affect people with slower
connections like me(I dont think it did),
but when people start posting higher Resolution videos it will
definitely affect the time videos will take to load specially with us
who have a relatively slow connection, i hope Youtube will take that
into consideration.
also a suggestion is: why don't you add the "lights out" button on
every video ??
> Over the years we've heard a lot of feedback from you about what you'd
> like to change about YouTube, and the size of our video player is
> always top of mind. That's why today we're excited to announce a
> bigger YouTube player.
> We're expanding the width of the page to 960 pixels to better reflect
> the quality of the videos you create and the screens that you use to
> watch them. This new, wider player is in a widescreen aspect ratio
> which we hope will provide you with a cleaner, more powerful viewing
> experience. And don't worry, your 4:3 aspect ratio videos will play
> just fine in this new player.
> As always, we welcome your feedback and encourage you to share your
> thoughts with us on this exciting, new change happening for all videos
> on YouTube.
totally agree..
it's so ugly...
it hurts my eyes.... WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE OLD PLAYER??
this is not better, it's worse >:(
can't you guys give the option in Account, to change the size of the
videoplayer by yourself??!
this is totally crap
> WTF!?!?! CRAP CRAP CRAP GET RID OF THAT SH**!!!!! I HATE HOW IT LOOKS
> IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT GIVE US AN OPTION TO GET RID OF IT!!!!!!!!!
> and if it's higher resolution.. WOULDN'T THAT FRICKEN DEGRADE THE
> QUALITY OF 640x480 VIDS!?!
> I DON'T LIKE IT I WANT THE OLD NORMAL PLAYER BACK RIGHT
> NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> IT'S STUPID!!!!!
> On Nov 24, 9:55 pm, YouTube Timmy wrote:
> > Over the years we've heard a lot of feedback from you about what you'd
> > like to change about YouTube, and the size of our video player is
> > always top of mind. That's why today we're excited to announce a
> > bigger YouTube player.
> > We're expanding the width of the page to 960 pixels to better reflect
> > the quality of the videos you create and the screens that you use to
> > watch them. This new, wider player is in a widescreen aspect ratio
> > which we hope will provide you with a cleaner, more powerful viewing
> > experience. And don't worry, your 4:3 aspect ratio videos will play
> > just fine in this new player.
> > As always, we welcome your feedback and encourage you to share your
> > thoughts with us on this exciting, new change happening for all videos
> > on YouTube.
I believe, like many others, that there should be an option on wether
to use this new player or not. On my 4:3 monitor, the widescreen
player makes the rest of the page look cluttered, and all 4:3 videos
have distracting black bars around them. I know 16:9 is becoming more
and more common, but we need an option to chose wether or not to view
the videos like that before a complete change.
> Over the years we've heard a lot of feedback from you about what you'd
> like to change about YouTube, and the size of our video player is
> always top of mind. That's why today we're excited to announce a
> bigger YouTube player.
> We're expanding the width of the page to 960 pixels to better reflect
> the quality of the videos you create and the screens that you use to
> watch them. This new, wider player is in a widescreen aspect ratio
> which we hope will provide you with a cleaner, more powerful viewing
> experience. And don't worry, your 4:3 aspect ratio videos will play
> just fine in this new player.
> As always, we welcome your feedback and encourage you to share your
> thoughts with us on this exciting, new change happening for all videos
> on YouTube.
so i test this widescreen crap out. i use a sony handycam dcr-hc48
with widescreen. I never recorded in widescreen before, but i thought
i'd give it a try. I record a video in widescreen...edit it in WMM
with the aspect changed to widescreen..then upload it. My problem is,
well i have the black bars still on the sides and not the top and
bottom like a true letterbox widescreen...so what's up?
THESE GUYS ARE DOING THIS SO YOU CAN MAKE IT MORE PROFESSIONAL SO THEY
CAN CUT DEALS WITH PRODUCERS LIKE FROM HOLLYWOOD!!!
HERE YOUTUBE IS JUST THINKING ABOUT THEMSELVES NOT THE USERS!!! THEY
JUST WANT THE MONEY!!!
IF THEY CARED ABOUT THE USERS THEY WOULDN'T'VE MADE THE WIDESCREEN OUT
UNTIL THEY GAVE US AN OPTION OF HOW TO USE IT THEY DIDN'T EVEN PUT
MUCH THOUGHT INTO IT JUST THINKING ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
what a stupid gimmick.. AND THEY DON'T EVEN WARN US OR GIVE US A BETA
VERSION SO WE CAN TRY IT OUT AND GIVE THEM FEEDBACK BEFORE HAND!!!
They just sprung it on us like they pretty much ALWAYS DO!!
> Over the years we've heard a lot of feedback from you about what you'd
> like to change about YouTube, and the size of our video player is
> always top of mind. That's why today we're excited to announce a
> bigger YouTube player.
> We're expanding the width of the page to 960 pixels to better reflect
> the quality of the videos you create and the screens that you use to
> watch them. This new, wider player is in a widescreen aspect ratio
> which we hope will provide you with a cleaner, more powerful viewing
> experience. And don't worry, your 4:3 aspect ratio videos will play
> just fine in this new player.
> As always, we welcome your feedback and encourage you to share your
> thoughts with us on this exciting, new change happening for all videos
> on YouTube.
This appears to be an ill conceived and poor executed idea. Whilst it
is appreciated that you are trying to improve the YT experience for
us, it would be nice if it was a majority decision that effected these
changes, rather than the pick of suggestions that the YT creators
would like to see themselves. Realistically, most of the YTubers out
there use a webcam to film their movie. Therefore the majority of
films are 4:3 in aspect.
For these changes to work, the person uploading the video should be
able to choose how they want their video to be seen, selecting the 4:3
ot 16:9 aspect. This option should then be noted by the video player
and the screen resizes accordingly.
Not many people can afford HD Widescreen video cameras yet and until
such time as they are readily available then a more flexible system
should have been used.
Now this arbitrary decision has left the majority of people with a
large black frame around their films, and even the people who have
filmed in widescreen already have also got weird screen displays.
Prior warning and information on the best screen sizes and resolutions
to be able to maximize our films like JonathanMarrero - did with his
film - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aLVCikhrSj8&fmt=18 (sorry this
was the first film I could find that worked well). Would have been
nice to know a few months ago, so we had prior warning and knew what
we needed to do make our widescreen films better.
Nice idea, badly executed with little information for those not
knowledgeable with filming in 16:9
This will benefit the few but inconvenience/annoy the majority.
The new resolution is 640 x 360, NOT 480x270. The quality of your 4:3
videos is the same, it is not mushed down or cut off. And, you have
wide screen! Enjoy it! A black border isn't then end of the world is
it? Did you not complain that there was a black border on 16:9 videos
on the old player?
YouTube shouldn't be such a large part of your life if it makes you
feel worse when they add a border or two. It isn't a big deal. All I
can see are postives about this :)
> This appears to be an ill conceived and poor executed idea. Whilst it
> is appreciated that you are trying to improve the YT experience for
> us, it would be nice if it was a majority decision that effected these
> changes, rather than the pick of suggestions that the YT creators
> would like to see themselves. Realistically, most of the YTubers out
> there use a webcam to film their movie. Therefore the majority of
> films are 4:3 in aspect.
> For these changes to work, the person uploading the video should be
> able to choose how they want their video to be seen, selecting the 4:3
> ot 16:9 aspect. This option should then be noted by the video player
> and the screen resizes accordingly.
> Not many people can afford HD Widescreen video cameras yet and until
> such time as they are readily available then a more flexible system
> should have been used.
> Now this arbitrary decision has left the majority of people with a
> large black frame around their films, and even the people who have
> filmed in widescreen already have also got weird screen displays.
> Prior warning and information on the best screen sizes and resolutions
> to be able to maximize our films like JonathanMarrero - did with his
> film -http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aLVCikhrSj8&fmt=18(sorry this
> was the first film I could find that worked well). Would have been
> nice to know a few months ago, so we had prior warning and knew what
> we needed to do make our widescreen films better.
> Nice idea, badly executed with little information for those not
> knowledgeable with filming in 16:9
> This will benefit the few but inconvenience/annoy the majority.
Excellent Idea. Youtube has been in desperate need of higher def
players. Problem is, now all my old videos look pretty terrible. The
ones that were 16:9 got converted to full screen, so they have this
big black box around them. And the full screen ones have an
unnecessarily large player....
