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YouTube Timmy Google employee  
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(2 users)  More options Feb 12, 12:26 pm
From: YouTube Timmy
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:26:42 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 12 2009 12:26 pm
Subject: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
Hi folks,

We are always looking for ways to make it easier for you to find,
watch, and share videos. Many of you have told us that you wanted to
take your favorite videos offline. So we've started working with a few
partners who want their videos shared universally and even enjoyed
away from an Internet connection.

Many video creators on YouTube want their work to be seen far and
wide. They don't mind sharing their work, provided that they get the
proper credit. Using Creative Commons licenses (http://
creativecommons.org/about/licenses/), we're giving our partners and
community more choices to make that happen. Creative Commons licenses
permit people to reuse downloaded content under certain conditions.

We're also testing an option that gives video owners the ability to
permit downloading of their videos from YouTube. Partners could choose
to offer their video downloads for free or for a small fee paid
through Google Checkout (http://checkout.google.com/). Partners can
set prices and decide which license they want to attach to the
downloaded video files.

For more info on the types of licenses, take a look here:
http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=140495

For example, universities use YouTube to share lectures and research
with an ever-expanding audience. In an effort to promote the sharing
of information, we are testing free downloads of YouTube videos from
Stanford (http://www.youtube.com/user/stanforduniversity), Duke
(http://www.youtube.com/user/dukeuniversitynews), UC Berkeley (http://
www.youtube.com/user/ucberkeley), UCLA (http://youtube.com/user/
uclacourses), and UCTV (broadcasting programs from throughout the UC
system: http://www.youtube.com/user/uctelevision). YouTube users who
are traveling or teachers who want to show these videos in classrooms
with limited or no connectivity should find this particularly useful.

A small number of other YouTube partners, including:

khanacademy (http://www.youtube.com/khanacademy)
householdhacker (http://www.youtube.com/householdhacker)
pogobat (http://www.youtube.com/pogobat),

...are also participating in this test as an additional distribution
and revenue-generating tool.

So how do these downloads work? The video watch pages of the
participating partners link to the download option below the left-hand
corner of the video. To help you keep track of the videos you have
previously purchased, we have created a new "My Purchases" tab (http://
www.youtube.com/my_purchases) under "My Videos."

If you are a partner who is interested in participating, you can find
out more about the test and enter your information here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p3zcNz3Ul4p0xmFwDkvpVJw&h....

Please do share your feedback with us by joining the discussion here.

Best,
Thai Tran
Product Manager


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 More options Feb 12, 1:18 pm
From: ebbixx
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:18:40 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 12 2009 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
Very exciting.  It will be nice to have a more clear and clean sense
of the intended IP status especially, not to mention a pathway to
downloads that are not somewhat questionable in copyright terms, as
opposed to the many back doorways that already exist and are beyond
preventing.

I take it from reading this that this is exclusively a Partners
option, though?  I take it that's necessary because only Partners are
necessarily fully identified by and to YouTube, so that the risk of
third parties selling or giving away what's not theirs can be avoided?

Anyway, will be checking this out ASAP!


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 More options Feb 12, 4:30 pm
From: KOHPelord
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:30:55 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 12 2009 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature

> I take it from reading this that this is exclusively a Partners
> option, though?

Of course it is... in order to get any decent features, you need to be
a Partner these days.  It's not like downloading videos is something
that everyone has been demanding since 2005 or anything.../*sarcasm*/

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(1 user)  More options Feb 12, 5:34 pm
From: Desplow
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:34:45 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 12 2009 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
A nice approach even thought I still prefer downloading my videos with
down to one click by running this JavaScript in the URL bar in my web
browser:

For a low quality video ("HQ"):

javascript:(function(){var%20myframe=document.createElement
('iframe');var%20myurl='http://www.youtube.com/get_video?
fmt=18&video_id='+swfArgs['video_id']+'&t='+swfArgs
['t'];myframe.src=myurl;myframe.style.display='none';document.body.appendCh ild
(myframe);})();void(0);

And for a high quality video (HD):

javascript:(function(){var%20myframe=document.createElement
('iframe');var%20myurl='http://www.youtube.com/get_video?
fmt=22&video_id='+swfArgs['video_id']+'&t='+swfArgs
['t'];myframe.src=myurl;myframe.style.display='none';document.body.appendCh ild
(myframe);})();void(0);

Yeah, it's still sucks that it's always about the partners, partners,
partners and partners.. please don't forget that most of still has
regular user accounts.

By the way, is it just me or has the native ability to download videos
from the US president's channel "BarakObamaDotCom" gone or what ?

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 More options Feb 12, 6:19 pm
From: aZeroGodist
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:19:13 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 12 2009 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
Aye its easy to become a partner, all you do is get a couple of bots,
that send out hundreds of friend requests a day and upload 10 vids
within a day, that magically all get 200+ views one in there first few
days, once your partner and got all those suckers that accept friend
requests from any olde-bot, then you'll be racking in the mega-
pennies. Yes i am fed up of botic-friend/comments, and now completely
off topic, which was downloading. Why would you want to download a vid
if its already stored online and easy to view rather than using up HD-
space.

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 More options Feb 12, 8:34 pm
From: jerry56655
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:34:26 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 12 2009 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
hmm,i dont know

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(1 user)  More options Feb 13, 12:09 pm
From: poetbeware
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:09:59 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Feb 13 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
Lame. I'll stick with Vimeo, thank you, they don't make me jump
through hoops to do Creative Commons.

This "only partners are worth anything" attitude has destroyed any
community YouTube might have had.

-Paul

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 More options Feb 13, 2:09 pm
From: greenhillrdne
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:09:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Feb 13 2009 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
Timmy, maybe you could answer something for me? Try to open any vid on
youtube all I get is a black screen no bar at the bottom Have down
loaded new adobe9 and still nothing. need help. thank you

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(1 user)  More options Feb 14, 2:27 am
From: okta87
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:27:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Feb 14 2009 2:27 am
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
hahahah! don't you know there are tens of free FLV downloaders?

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(1 user)  More options Feb 14, 11:44 am
From: TexWhatever
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:44:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Feb 14 2009 11:44 am
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
yes they probably do.
this reminds me of napster going commercial after the court case and
trying to sell mp3's.
they were competing with the free online p2p progs like limewire and
kazaa and didn't have a hope.

now apple tries it with their online site itunes. they try little
tricks like crippling the songs so you have to buy the same song over
again as soon as you upgrade your hardware. great competition for the
file sharers.

i want my copyright protected as an artist. i'd prefer to punters to
do me the coutesy of paying for what i make. you don't get plumbing
for free, or your car fixed or a night out at the movies or a play, so
why should i get nothing? it's my life gig. it IS my work.

by the same token i'm not stupid. i KNOW people are going to download
my gear. if they don't it will be harder for me to get known. and
without getting known i won't sell jack shit.

so i EXPECT to be downed from youtube. i put my copyright mark and
logo in my clips so people will hopefully keep that in and potential
customers will know who made the work. that's all i ask.

youtube needs to make this option available for all who upload.

if you want to make this available then do so for all.
so i can tick a box and let people download with an in house
downloader. what a great publicity tool that would be!

if you don't want that at least there's another way of saying "please
don't download my clips"

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 More options Feb 14, 9:07 pm
From: SkogKniv
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:07:51 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Feb 14 2009 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
Why is it in the last few days all of the videos I have loaded are not
showing in an HQ? I loaded them with much better quality than they are
playing right now.

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 More options Feb 15, 5:58 pm
From: SkogKniv
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:58:06 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Feb 15 2009 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
Nothing huh?

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(1 user)  More options Feb 16, 10:32 am
From: KirbysPetCat
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:32:36 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Feb 16 2009 10:32 am
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
Agreed. Actually, if anything, I would like to see the partner feature
gone.

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(1 user)  More options Feb 19, 10:11 pm
From: rick
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:11:45 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
Suggestions for YouTube to make more people use your download feature:

-Disable 'print screen' feature on keyboards otherwise people can
still get lots of screenshots from a video for free. Just make it so
when a person uses 'print screen' and they paste the image, the video
player will just be a white colored box. Everything around the video
will be displayed, just not the Video itself.

-There are lots of YouTube video downloader websites which enable
people to download YouTube videos for free. You should work on a way
to disable videos from being downloaded using these.

-People can use screen capture/video capture software to record entire
YouTube videos. I think you should add some programming code into the
YouTube player that disables screen capture/video capture software
from recording YouTube videos. Just make a White colored box show up
instead of the video. Everything around the video player will be
recorded, but the YouTube video will be just a white box.

This will mean if YouTube users want to download a video, they have to
do it legally using YouTube's download feature.

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 More options Mar 20, 3:26 am
From: johnhguitar
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:26:26 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 20 2009 3:26 am
Subject: Re: YouTube Goes Offline - New Downloads Feature
I think it's a good idea, but not many people are going to pay if they
can watch the entire video for free; especially since, as many have
pointed out, one can use many third party programs to download videos.

Have you ever considered only allowing a certain percentage of these
videos to be played for free on YouTube?  For example, if we were to
have a 10 minute educational video, we could specify that we only want
1 minute, or 10%, to be played for free.  The user would have to pay
to download and view the rest of the content.

It would be a lot better than having to produce DVDs.

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